Comments on: In a shocking turn of events, http://freepressblog.org/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/ A few thoughts and other random stuff I found interesting. Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:01:13 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Dave Z http://freepressblog.org/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1685 Dave Z Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:44:36 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/#comment-1685 those who strongly favor abortion dont seem to want to work for anything like abstinence or adoption, and those who are strongly prolife see the devil in sex ed. "I guess those lives are the cost of their stubbornness." - the lives that are being taken are the sole personal responsibility of those making that decision: the woman, the doctors. those who strongly favor abortion dont seem to want to work for anything like abstinence or adoption, and those who are strongly prolife see the devil in sex ed.

“I guess those lives are the cost of their stubbornness.” – the lives that are being taken are the sole personal responsibility of those making that decision: the woman, the doctors.

]]> By: JB http://freepressblog.org/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1684 JB Thu, 02 Jun 2005 03:51:42 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/#comment-1684 I think we need to take it a step further than agreeing to disagree, and find a common goal that we can agree on and work towards it, as I've outlined above. I think we need to take it a step further than agreeing to disagree, and find a common goal that we can agree on and work towards it, as I’ve outlined above.

]]> By: Dave Z http://freepressblog.org/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1683 Dave Z Thu, 02 Jun 2005 03:46:38 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/#comment-1683 It was joke to keep the dialog going, to spur more and respond to something I didnt see the first time I read it but is nonetheless true... :-) how can you concur with someone so different other than agree to disagree? We all agree on the abortion issue here, I think, and do probably have an approach that is not confrontational with opposing views on abortion and an open heart for any who have been victimized by this current climate of license. You know when people start to preach to me about this or that anti God thing or pro choice. If they ask for my opinion I just gently state my own view, not debating, usually I just say " I understand, well I beleive this ..." It was joke to keep the dialog going, to spur more and respond to something I didnt see the first time I read it but is nonetheless true… :-)
how can you concur with someone so different other than agree to disagree?
We all agree on the abortion issue here, I think, and do probably have an approach that is not confrontational with opposing views on abortion and an open heart for any who have been victimized by this current climate of license.
You know when people start to preach to me about this or that anti God thing or pro choice. If they ask for my opinion I just gently state my own view, not debating, usually I just say ” I understand, well I beleive this …”

]]> By: JB http://freepressblog.org/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1682 JB Thu, 02 Jun 2005 03:45:44 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/#comment-1682 Partnering with those you disagree with to achieve a common goal does not necessarily involve a compromise in principles. A strict policy of "no compromise", even on human dignity issues, usually impedes progress. It's unfortunate that even after decades of ineffectiveness, the "pro-lifers" are unwilling to explore options that would in the end reduce the number of abortions being had. I guess those lives are the cost of their stubbornness. Partnering with those you disagree with to achieve a common goal does not necessarily involve a compromise in principles.

A strict policy of “no compromise”, even on human dignity issues, usually impedes progress.

It’s unfortunate that even after decades of ineffectiveness, the “pro-lifers” are unwilling to explore options that would in the end reduce the number of abortions being had. I guess those lives are the cost of their stubbornness.

]]> By: Nate http://freepressblog.org/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1681 Nate Thu, 02 Jun 2005 03:25:30 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/#comment-1681 I was being over the top (of course:), but I do think that placating the opposition with such diplomatic verbiage does give them a sense a legitimacy that may be counter productive. On the most important issues such as defending human dignity there may be no room for compromise. I was being over the top (of course:), but I do think that placating the opposition with such diplomatic verbiage does give them a sense a legitimacy that may be counter productive. On the most important issues such as defending human dignity there may be no room for compromise.

]]> By: JB http://freepressblog.org/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1680 JB Thu, 02 Jun 2005 03:10:28 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/#comment-1680 I'm taking that as a joke, but just in case... To clarify, the reason I used that language was that phrasing it that way leads to an approach that both sides can agree on. Too bad both sides would rather polarize and make no progress. I’m taking that as a joke, but just in case…

To clarify, the reason I used that language was that phrasing it that way leads to an approach that both sides can agree on.

Too bad both sides would rather polarize and make no progress.

]]> By: Nate http://freepressblog.org/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1679 Nate Thu, 02 Jun 2005 02:53:00 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/#comment-1679 Well I thought a good example why all sides can't come together was when you said, "it would be a good thing to reduce the overall number of abortions women are going through" when you clearly should of have said, "it would be a good thing to reduce the number of defenseless, innocent babies murdered by thier selfish mothers". Well I thought a good example why all sides can’t come together was when you said, “it would be a good thing to reduce the overall number of abortions women are going through” when you clearly should of have said, “it would be a good thing to reduce the number of defenseless, innocent babies murdered by thier selfish mothers”.

]]> By: JB http://freepressblog.org/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1678 JB Thu, 02 Jun 2005 02:38:21 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/#comment-1678 Remember what I said about both sides coming together and working on the issue? The previous comment is a prefect example of why that doesn't happen. Remember what I said about both sides coming together and working on the issue?

The previous comment is a prefect example of why that doesn’t happen.

]]> By: Dave Z http://freepressblog.org/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1677 Dave Z Wed, 01 Jun 2005 21:08:50 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/#comment-1677 From Nathan comment above -- "as far as “the left,â€? well, they generally don’t consider fetuses to be life yet. so really, they stand for the preservation of life in their own view of what life is. " Yeah kinda like the way the south thought about their black slaves. From Nathan comment above –
“as far as “the left,â€? well, they generally don’t consider fetuses to be life yet. so really, they stand for the preservation of life in their own view of what life is. ”

Yeah kinda like the way the south thought about their black slaves.

]]> By: Dave Z http://freepressblog.org/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1676 Dave Z Tue, 31 May 2005 21:46:50 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/30/in-a-shocking-turn-of-events/#comment-1676 because they like the post and or your blog. because they like the post and or your blog.

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