Comments on: I Don’t Recommend FriendFeed http://freepressblog.org/2008/07/06/i-dont-recommend-friendfeed/ A few thoughts and other random stuff I found interesting. Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:15:21 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: JB http://freepressblog.org/2008/07/06/i-dont-recommend-friendfeed/comment-page-1/#comment-20607 JB Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:01:01 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/?p=100376#comment-20607 If Google Reader did allow that, I guess it would be a decent *workaround* to the existing *problem*, although hopefully it would be a setting you could set on a per feed basis, since I definitely wouldn't want that behavior for most feeds. The problem is that FriendFeed doesn't have a true comments feed. Stuffing them into the feed of the original item is interesting but not an adequate substitute. This is not a difficult problem to understand or provide a solution for, so I'm thinking that they are probably well aware of the idea, and have chosen to do things this way, in order to drive more real web traffic to their actual site. If Google Reader did allow that, I guess it would be a decent *workaround* to the existing *problem*, although hopefully it would be a setting you could set on a per feed basis, since I definitely wouldn’t want that behavior for most feeds.

The problem is that FriendFeed doesn’t have a true comments feed. Stuffing them into the feed of the original item is interesting but not an adequate substitute.

This is not a difficult problem to understand or provide a solution for, so I’m thinking that they are probably well aware of the idea, and have chosen to do things this way, in order to drive more real web traffic to their actual site.

]]> By: Dan Cameron http://freepressblog.org/2008/07/06/i-dont-recommend-friendfeed/comment-page-1/#comment-20606 Dan Cameron Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:27:28 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/?p=100376#comment-20606 #1: IMO it looks like it's Google Reader's fault for not telling me that the feed was updated (with new comments), probably just a feature they need to add to the UI but if you go back to the items the new comments are displayed. So the feed's being updated the UI just can't tell you. What I'll probably do is go back and check the recent marked read posts and see if there are any new comments until Google Reader fixes how they handle updated feeds (so I know they've been updated). (Told you this yesterday but) most RSS clients have a feature that unmarks a read item if it's been updated, GR should do the same. #1: IMO it looks like it’s Google Reader’s fault for not telling me that the feed was updated (with new comments), probably just a feature they need to add to the UI but if you go back to the items the new comments are displayed. So the feed’s being updated the UI just can’t tell you.
What I’ll probably do is go back and check the recent marked read posts and see if there are any new comments until Google Reader fixes how they handle updated feeds (so I know they’ve been updated).

(Told you this yesterday but) most RSS clients have a feature that unmarks a read item if it’s been updated, GR should do the same.

]]> By: JB http://freepressblog.org/2008/07/06/i-dont-recommend-friendfeed/comment-page-1/#comment-20602 JB Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:30:09 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/?p=100376#comment-20602 (On #1) Yeah, but I just don't think it should be that difficult. I'll work it out for myself, but most people aren't going to be willing and able to put in that kind of effort. (On #2) Thanks for that link. Phase 2 of my plan for what I'm doing now on this blog (pulling in all those other things) has always included pulling in comments from those other sources as well. I probably won't use that actual plugin, but it might come in handy as a reference when updating my code, if I ever get around to doing that part. (On #1) Yeah, but I just don’t think it should be that difficult. I’ll work it out for myself, but most people aren’t going to be willing and able to put in that kind of effort.

(On #2) Thanks for that link. Phase 2 of my plan for what I’m doing now on this blog (pulling in all those other things) has always included pulling in comments from those other sources as well. I probably won’t use that actual plugin, but it might come in handy as a reference when updating my code, if I ever get around to doing that part.

]]> By: Dan Cameron http://freepressblog.org/2008/07/06/i-dont-recommend-friendfeed/comment-page-1/#comment-20601 Dan Cameron Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:27:55 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/?p=100376#comment-20601 Point one: True comment RSS feed. This does suck, a lot, but a Yahoo! Pipe or some other code can fix that with or without the ff API. Point two: Since you're pulling all of the services that you would aggregate on ff it shouldn't matter if you used a plugin like this, http://blog.slaven.net.au/wordpress-plugins/friendfeed-comments-wordpress-plugin/ Because all the comments over there (on ff) would then be pulled into your blog. Point one: True comment RSS feed. This does suck, a lot, but a Yahoo! Pipe or some other code can fix that with or without the ff API.

Point two: Since you’re pulling all of the services that you would aggregate on ff it shouldn’t matter if you used a plugin like this, http://blog.slaven.net.au/wordpress-plugins/friendfeed-comments-wordpress-plugin/
Because all the comments over there (on ff) would then be pulled into your blog.

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