Catwoman - “worst movie” honors & general comments on “comic book” movies

This started out as a reply to Dan’s article about this movie winning the “worst movie” awards, but it got a little long, so I decided to post it here for everyone to read.

From what I’ve heard from fellow comic book geeks (I didn’t see the movie), the only thing the Catwoman movie had in common with the comic book character was the name; there was pretty much nothing taken from the books at all.

In general, comic book adaptations are tricky, and most of them fail. In my opinion, it’s partially in spite of the large volume of stories already written for the character(s), and partially because of this. I will use two recognizable examples to illustrate my point: the Spider-man and X-men movies. These are good cases, since most people probably saw them or at least know about them, and both have been around since the early 60’s. With probably an average of 3-4 monthly books (maybe less overall for Spider-man, probably more for X) over the last 40 years, there is certainly a broad base of developed plotlines to draw from.

Firstly, in any discussion about comic book movies, there will always be the objections raised by the “hard-core” geek fans of the series regarding how the movie gets things “totally wrong”, such as Spider-man’s webs shooting from his wrists (as opposed to the mechanical devices he built for himself in the comics), or the fact that characters like Wolverine and Rouge were not a part of the X-Men team until much later, and endless other differences with every character in these movies (especially X-Men). I will (for the most part) steer clear of these, since it’s my opinion that (#1) there probably has to be some degree of restructuring to make it appeal to the much larger audiences that movies have to go after to be successful, and (#2) the movies can still be enjoyable even if they don’t perfectly adhere to the comics, or even completely change them (as in these example movies). What’s more, pretty much every comic book series that has been around that long (at least the “majors”: DC and Marvel) have already had their characters rewritten innumerable times by various creative teams, so all the comic geeks should already be used to that sort of thing. The current “Smallville” TV show is a good example of this as well (if you can get past the Dawson’s Creek-ishness), it’s a pretty good “reimagining” of the Superman story - better than the movies in my opinion.

OK, now back to my points: both Spider-man movies (I guess I’m still kind of a geek, since I know that it’s “Spider-man” not “Spiderman”) were much more successful than the X-Men movies. The reason behind this (I think) was that they didn’t try to cover every aspect of Spider-history, they didn’t seem to worry about getting the details of the characters exactly “right”, and they focused on making a decent story that appealed to a wider audience, that was loosely based on a few narrowly focused elements of the comic plotlines.

On the other hand, the first X-Men movie was an attempt to throw in elements from at least 10 different plotlines pulled from their years of comic history, and just ended up not being very impressive because they tried to do too much; so not only did they “get it all wrong”, their new version just wasn’t very interesting either. They did a little better the second time around, by more narrowly focusing on one general theme (still intermixing others, but not like the first one). It looks like they may get the 3rd one even better; the ending of the second movie is an obvious lead-in to one of the better X-Men plotlines, and hopefully they focus exclusively on that for #3.

Anyway, the bottom line is that Catwoman sucking didn’t have much to do with comics, other than negatively associating a name taken from a comic character with a bad movie.

6 Comments

  1. nstryker
    Posted February 27, 2005 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    i generally steer clear of the superhero comic adaptation, unless it comes highly recommended. i think it’s too easy for hollywood to say, “okay, kickass chick in leather. got it…this’ll write itself.” and then they hire some low life to churn out a generic plot.

  2. Posted February 27, 2005 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    It’s pretty hit and miss, but with the volume of comic adaptations lately, there are bound to be some good ones sneaking in.

    I usually make it a rule to see all of them, just for the heck of it , but I have slacked off on that recently. As I mentioned above, I didn’t see Catwoman, and I also haven’t seen Elektra or Constantine yet. Some other recent ones that I was unfortunate (or dumb) enough to see included Punisher and Hulk; but on the other hand, I thought Hellboy and League of Ex. Gentlemen were OK; so you never know what you’re going to get. I’m hoping the upcoming Batman one will be good, and I’ve heard that the preview for Sin City looks good as well, although I haven’t seen it myself.

  3. Dan
    Posted February 27, 2005 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Elektra: Netflix
    Constantine: was pretty good we saw it last week, actually I really enjoyed it.
    Punisher: Netflix
    Hulk: Sara nd I liked it a lot.
    Hellboy: was pretty cool
    League of Ex.: Okay

    Batman 1 and Beginning: Kick and will Kick ass

    The preview to Sin City looks awesome. I thought it was going to be an adaptation of a video game called Max Payne at first but it turned out not to be. It looks good, I will definitely see it, I especially like the video filter/effect they applied to it.

    Jared: thatnks for stealing my thunder.

  4. nstryker
    Posted February 27, 2005 at 11:23 pm | Permalink

    a max payne adaptation would be bad ass (potentially). be specific about the hit and miss factor. there have been consistantly good non-superhero comic adaptions out there: from hell, ghost world, road to perdition, american spendor…all excellent. looking forward to batman and sin city, constantine is a rental.

    what was to like about hulk?

  5. Anonymous
    Posted May 15, 2007 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    all the catwoman movie needs is a new director, people who could write story over and change catwoman name to selina and keep halle berry. Because if she can do good as storm in xmen then I know for a fact that she can do catwoman agian. I just really hope she can give it a second try.

  6. Posted May 15, 2007 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    all catwoman needed was to be a totally different movie.

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