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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/17/i-wonder/#comment-1562</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2005 02:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was supposed to say:
Well of course they did not invent 802.11 (is that better)</description>
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Well of course they did not invent 802.11 (is that better)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/17/i-wonder/#comment-1561</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2005 02:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well of course they did not bring 802.11 (is that better), but they did invent the airport that brought wireless networking to offices or homes.
I never said they invented mp3 players with the iPod;Dave did and he not a Mac advocate.

Things I know they invented
SCSI
Firewire
iTunes
Digital cameras
Personal Computers




And there is a huge list of products that they either brought into the mainstream or where the first to market them.

Dual-Processors
DVD-R
Bluetooth (maybe)
WiFi (:D)
slot loaded laptops
Spotlight (windows has been trying for ever)
All-in-one machine (iMac)
64bit
GUI (Xerox)
Mice (Xerox)



Best of all they were the first to kill the floppy drive and give computers to schools when you bought a bunch of grocieries at Vons.

Here are some web quotes.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Unicode was a joint development between Apple, IBM, and Xerox. It is the basis for cross-platform use of multiple languages where little existed prior to it. Apple's WorldScript and relevant research led to this innovation.

first succesful music download service thats practical and legal

first commercial hard disk file table (mac file system)

the double click, the dragable icon, the pull-down menu, overlapping windows, etc.

the first PDA (at least commercialy) that also had natural hand writting recognition

the lisa office system, that was basically the first integrated office suite, came out in 1983, forbearer to MS Office

Quarts Extreme, the first 2-D UI to be Graphics Processor Accelerated (mapping windows to Polygons in an actual 3-D scene)

Apple, with Macintosh and LaserWriter (Canon print engine), brought about the acronym WYSIWYG

first consumer digital camera (a.k.a Quicktake 100)(Which was actually a Kodak camera with Apple's name on it.) The Kodak DC40 and the Apple QuickTake 100 were both made by Kyocera (Kyoto Ceramics

multiple independently regulated thermal zones (in the G5)

titanium and aluminum enclosures, illuminated keyboards, a UNIX-based OS that *anyone* can use
Rendezvous (automatic network resource recognition and configuring
Macintosh was the first computer to have square pixels, something that IBM touted 3 years later when they introduced VGA&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
-- 1977- Apple II, first personal computer with colour graphics
-- 1979 - VisiCalc, first spreadsheet program, released for the Apple II
-- 1983 - Lisa (forerunner to Macintosh), first personal computer with a GUI
-- 1984 - Macintosh released. First personal computer with dynamic memory allocation, API programming support (the Toolbox), a graphics API (QuickDraw) a global clipboard, Undo feature, 3.5" floppy disk.
-- 1985 - First personal computer with built-in networking.(LocalTalk) Also, LaserWriter helps establish the Mac as the standard for DTP
-- 1986 - First personal computer with built-in SCSI (Mac Plus)
-- 1987 - Plug-and-play expansion (Nubus in Mac II)
-- 1987 - HyperCard introduces visual programming; MultiFinder brings multitasking (albeit not preemptive) to the Mac
-- 1988 - Plug and play SCSI CD-ROM
-- 1988 - SuperDrive introduced. Read/writes to Mac, DOS, OS/2, and ProDOS floppies
-- 1989 - 32-bit QuickDraw allows Macs to display photo-qulaity, true-clour images
-- 1991 -The first plug-and-play Ethernet cards
-- 1991 - Apple petitions the FCC to allow personal computers to exchange information via wireless radio
-- 1991 - QuickTime, the first standard architecture for dynamic media
-- 1992 - WorldScript, the first worldwide language support for an operating system.
-- 1992 - QuickTime for Windows makes QuickTime the first cross-platform dynamic media standard
-- Jan 1993 - ColorSync is the first colour-matching technology bulit-in to an operating system
-- July 1993 First personal computers with built-in video digitisers and speech recognition (660AV and 840AV)
-- Aug 1993 - Newton Message Pad introduced
-- Oct1993 - First unified telephony and e-mail architecture for a personal computer operating system (PowerTalk and PowerShare)
-- Oct1993 - First personal computer with bulit-in TV and CD stereo system (Macintosh TV)
-- Mar 1994 - PowerMacs debut, become the leading RISC-based personal computers
-- Mar 1994 - System 7.1 for PowerMacs is the first operating system to use emulation to run parts of itself, as well as legacy application software (ie the backwards-support is done in software instead of tying down the hardware Ë? la x86)
-- Mar 1994 - First 24-bit colour camera under $1000 (QuickTake)
-- Aug 1994 - First next-generation typography engine (QuickDraw GX)
-- Fall 1994 - First panoramic virtual reality technology for personal computers (QuickTime VR) &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well of course they did not bring 802.11 (is that better), but they did invent the airport that brought wireless networking to offices or homes.<br />
I never said they invented mp3 players with the iPod;Dave did and he not a Mac advocate.</p>
<p>Things I know they invented<br />
SCSI<br />
Firewire<br />
iTunes<br />
Digital cameras<br />
Personal Computers</p>
<p>And there is a huge list of products that they either brought into the mainstream or where the first to market them.</p>
<p>Dual-Processors<br />
DVD-R<br />
Bluetooth (maybe)<br />
WiFi (:D)<br />
slot loaded laptops<br />
Spotlight (windows has been trying for ever)<br />
All-in-one machine (iMac)<br />
64bit<br />
GUI (Xerox)<br />
Mice (Xerox)</p>
<p>Best of all they were the first to kill the floppy drive and give computers to schools when you bought a bunch of grocieries at Vons.</p>
<p>Here are some web quotes.</p>
<blockquote><p>Unicode was a joint development between Apple, IBM, and Xerox. It is the basis for cross-platform use of multiple languages where little existed prior to it. Apple&#8217;s WorldScript and relevant research led to this innovation.</p>
<p>first succesful music download service thats practical and legal</p>
<p>first commercial hard disk file table (mac file system)</p>
<p>the double click, the dragable icon, the pull-down menu, overlapping windows, etc.</p>
<p>the first PDA (at least commercialy) that also had natural hand writting recognition</p>
<p>the lisa office system, that was basically the first integrated office suite, came out in 1983, forbearer to MS Office</p>
<p>Quarts Extreme, the first 2-D UI to be Graphics Processor Accelerated (mapping windows to Polygons in an actual 3-D scene)</p>
<p>Apple, with Macintosh and LaserWriter (Canon print engine), brought about the acronym WYSIWYG</p>
<p>first consumer digital camera (a.k.a Quicktake 100)(Which was actually a Kodak camera with Apple&#8217;s name on it.) The Kodak DC40 and the Apple QuickTake 100 were both made by Kyocera (Kyoto Ceramics</p>
<p>multiple independently regulated thermal zones (in the G5)</p>
<p>titanium and aluminum enclosures, illuminated keyboards, a UNIX-based OS that *anyone* can use<br />
Rendezvous (automatic network resource recognition and configuring<br />
Macintosh was the first computer to have square pixels, something that IBM touted 3 years later when they introduced VGA</p></blockquote>
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&#8211; 1977- Apple II, first personal computer with colour graphics<br />
&#8211; 1979 - VisiCalc, first spreadsheet program, released for the Apple II<br />
&#8211; 1983 - Lisa (forerunner to Macintosh), first personal computer with a GUI<br />
&#8211; 1984 - Macintosh released. First personal computer with dynamic memory allocation, API programming support (the Toolbox), a graphics API (QuickDraw) a global clipboard, Undo feature, 3.5&#8243; floppy disk.<br />
&#8211; 1985 - First personal computer with built-in networking.(LocalTalk) Also, LaserWriter helps establish the Mac as the standard for DTP<br />
&#8211; 1986 - First personal computer with built-in SCSI (Mac Plus)<br />
&#8211; 1987 - Plug-and-play expansion (Nubus in Mac II)<br />
&#8211; 1987 - HyperCard introduces visual programming; MultiFinder brings multitasking (albeit not preemptive) to the Mac<br />
&#8211; 1988 - Plug and play SCSI CD-ROM<br />
&#8211; 1988 - SuperDrive introduced. Read/writes to Mac, DOS, OS/2, and ProDOS floppies<br />
&#8211; 1989 - 32-bit QuickDraw allows Macs to display photo-qulaity, true-clour images<br />
&#8211; 1991 -The first plug-and-play Ethernet cards<br />
&#8211; 1991 - Apple petitions the FCC to allow personal computers to exchange information via wireless radio<br />
&#8211; 1991 - QuickTime, the first standard architecture for dynamic media<br />
&#8211; 1992 - WorldScript, the first worldwide language support for an operating system.<br />
&#8211; 1992 - QuickTime for Windows makes QuickTime the first cross-platform dynamic media standard<br />
&#8211; Jan 1993 - ColorSync is the first colour-matching technology bulit-in to an operating system<br />
&#8211; July 1993 First personal computers with built-in video digitisers and speech recognition (660AV and 840AV)<br />
&#8211; Aug 1993 - Newton Message Pad introduced<br />
&#8211; Oct1993 - First unified telephony and e-mail architecture for a personal computer operating system (PowerTalk and PowerShare)<br />
&#8211; Oct1993 - First personal computer with bulit-in TV and CD stereo system (Macintosh TV)<br />
&#8211; Mar 1994 - PowerMacs debut, become the leading RISC-based personal computers<br />
&#8211; Mar 1994 - System 7.1 for PowerMacs is the first operating system to use emulation to run parts of itself, as well as legacy application software (ie the backwards-support is done in software instead of tying down the hardware Ë? la x86)<br />
&#8211; Mar 1994 - First 24-bit colour camera under $1000 (QuickTake)<br />
&#8211; Aug 1994 - First next-generation typography engine (QuickDraw GX)<br />
&#8211; Fall 1994 - First panoramic virtual reality technology for personal computers (QuickTime VR) </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/17/i-wonder/#comment-1560</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of people didn't know Apple brought WiFi to us because it's not true. Like the iPod, other companies had already done the work of both developing the technology itself and making the devices, Apple just put a nice looking wrapping on it and made it more popular.

The more I uncover about how Apple pretty much just takes technology that others have already made and claims it as their own, the more they remind me of Microsoft. To be fair, Apple doesn't actually claim that an MP3 player like the iPod or "wifi" were their original ideas, but as you can see, many of their advocates still believe it.

P.S. - In case you can't tell, I hate the term "wifi", it's totally ridiculous and has no meaning that makes any sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people didn&#8217;t know Apple brought WiFi to us because it&#8217;s not true. Like the iPod, other companies had already done the work of both developing the technology itself and making the devices, Apple just put a nice looking wrapping on it and made it more popular.</p>
<p>The more I uncover about how Apple pretty much just takes technology that others have already made and claims it as their own, the more they remind me of Microsoft. To be fair, Apple doesn&#8217;t actually claim that an MP3 player like the iPod or &#8220;wifi&#8221; were their original ideas, but as you can see, many of their advocates still believe it.</p>
<p>P.S. - In case you can&#8217;t tell, I hate the term &#8220;wifi&#8221;, it&#8217;s totally ridiculous and has no meaning that makes any sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Z</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/17/i-wonder/#comment-1559</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 20:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, they took the mp3 tech looked at what wasnt working and made it better.
I looked at mp3 players and didn't want to spend the time doing another science project everytime to find &#38; download a legal song.

If they invented WIFI that's great, but they haven't exploited it much - or should  I say innovated it to reach the bottom line in a big splash like the ipod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, they took the mp3 tech looked at what wasnt working and made it better.<br />
I looked at mp3 players and didn&#8217;t want to spend the time doing another science project everytime to find &amp; download a legal song.</p>
<p>If they invented WIFI that&#8217;s great, but they haven&#8217;t exploited it much - or should  I say innovated it to reach the bottom line in a big splash like the ipod.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/17/i-wonder/#comment-1558</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 19:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2005/052305schwartau.html"&gt;[Link]&lt;/a&gt;

Apple has been the first in a lot of fields, look at Wifi, a lot of people didn't know they brought the WiFi world to us. I think they invented it too, but could be wrong.
When I was talking about inovation I was also thinking of how they implement new technology faster then anyone else, they also have the best designers. The new iMac g5 is awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2005/052305schwartau.html">[Link]</a></p>
<p>Apple has been the first in a lot of fields, look at Wifi, a lot of people didn&#8217;t know they brought the WiFi world to us. I think they invented it too, but could be wrong.<br />
When I was talking about inovation I was also thinking of how they implement new technology faster then anyone else, they also have the best designers. The new iMac g5 is awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Z</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/17/i-wonder/#comment-1557</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 05:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is up again for a short season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is up again for a short season.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Z</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/17/i-wonder/#comment-1556</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 05:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the blog was fun but it required time and work.
maybe with rss it could be eaiser.
yeah, my blog was about mellow stuff, not me,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the blog was fun but it required time and work.<br />
maybe with rss it could be eaiser.<br />
yeah, my blog was about mellow stuff, not me,</p>
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		<title>By: nstryker</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/17/i-wonder/#comment-1555</link>
		<dc:creator>nstryker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 04:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i advise talking about yourself instead of other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i advise talking about yourself instead of other people.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Z</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/17/i-wonder/#comment-1554</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 04:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem, I like to hear your opinion on some things and I dont have your email and I will follow the etiquette. If something evolves that is ok right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem, I like to hear your opinion on some things and I dont have your email and I will follow the etiquette. If something evolves that is ok right?</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/05/17/i-wonder/#comment-1553</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 04:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We read your blog when it was up, and we would again if you started posting again. With RSS, it's pretty easy to keep up with them.

If you want more comments than you were getting, then I don't know what to advise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We read your blog when it was up, and we would again if you started posting again. With RSS, it&#8217;s pretty easy to keep up with them.</p>
<p>If you want more comments than you were getting, then I don&#8217;t know what to advise.</p>
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