Speaking of city lameness…

People will be attending the upcoming city council meeting on Monday to confront the city on the issue of their “crackdown” on such evil things as feeding the houseless or underprivileged. The b does a meal on Thursdays at Mission Park, and we have been told that we shouldn’t do it there anymore, since that kind of thing leads to (gasp) people having to see that part of society that some may deem “undesirable”. What a load of arrogant, snobbish, $#!!.

8 Comments

  1. nstryker
    Posted July 4, 2005 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    :-(

  2. Ranonymous
    Posted July 4, 2005 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    why dont you feed any individuals that want food at that edifice of brick and mortar in which the community know as the bridge enjoys their collectives.

  3. Not so anonymous
    Posted July 4, 2005 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    The city, county, state, and federal, governments are NOT the Church. They can not be judged on the same level that the Church is to be held accountable. What is so surprising that people would act the way that is arrogant and snobbish. That is human behavior, which I see everywhere in EVERYONE. The Church is, by design, to be different and fallow a different path than that of man made organizations. I never heard of Jesus storming into city hall and turning over any tables there or marching in front of any governor̢۪s palaces.

  4. Dave Z
    Posted July 4, 2005 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    This/these anon person(s) is/are not me, btw.

    What is the city’s problem?
    I really dont understand their reasoning, it seems like they want to develop and pave it all to get more money, Now they have the supreme court backing to take any house they want.

    Housing prices might dip if people are helped.
    Maybe they hope they cant afford food and get so hungry they have to move out to the palmdale.

  5. nstryker
    Posted July 4, 2005 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    it’s not that they’re failing they’re mission in Christ or something, or even that it’s surprising. just that it’s disappointing.

    housing prices will dip? sounds good to me!

  6. Dave Z
    Posted July 4, 2005 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    the more people are helped the bigger the house you can get…

  7. michel
    Posted July 4, 2005 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    The “city” as a government entity is not necessarily responsible here. There’s a disconnect somewhere, I’m not sure where yet. The police dept. says complaints from citizens have been increasing, forcing them to enforce no public feeding by unlicensed groups. Agencies that are licensed to feed are still being allowed to do so. When I called City Manager Rick Cole a matter of days after “evolutionary relationships” was closed down he said he had no idea what I was talking about. Maybe it’s the SB and LA transplants who’re complaining. Although it might be the tourism people doing it undercover. Regardless, the best thing I heard said was from the owner of Franky’s who feeds from behind her restaurant. She said, “Is it illegal to have a picnic in the park and invite your friends?” Who’s brining the potato salad?

  8. Posted July 4, 2005 at 11:47 pm | Permalink

    Re: the idea of feeding at the b facility - there are all sorts of legal complications when it comes to feeding people, and even more when it involves a building with a kitchen (even if it doesn’t work). It’s not completely out of the question, as we do have what we call “common meals” there occasionally, and usually have a number of houseless guests when we do so, but it’s nowhere near the numbers that turn out for the Thursday thing; there are probably a lot of reasons for this - I imagine some may have to do with intimidation, past experiences with or misconceptions about “the church”, etc.

    As for holding the government accountable to the same standards as the church, when they are clearly (and rightfully) supposed to be separate, I would never assume to do so. Perhaps an apology is in order for the judgmental tone of my initial remark, I don’t know - it’s more disappointment than anything else, as Nathan said.

    As for Jesus “storming city hall”, it is true that he certainly did not, and I don’t plan to either. However, the government that Jesus lived under while “physically” on earth had absolutely NO pretense of being concerned with the opinions of the “common” person, and such discussions were not tolerated much less encouraged. We live in a much different kind of country (as this day should remind us); one which not only permits but encourages its citizens to be a part of the process and have a voice in its direction. I don’t think Jesus would have us neglect that responsibility, nor be concerned with ruffling the feathers of those who may disagree. Of course, we should act in humility, while at the same time pursuing a just and compassionate cause.

    Dave, I know who the anonymous person is, I was just poking a little fun about that part.

    The housing price issue is probably a big factor in the complaints that led to this action, you are correct. I guess that’s the thing that kind of gets me pissed off, since personal experience leads me to believe that it’s likely that the people who issue such complaints without regard to compassion also claim to follow the same Jesus that we serve. I know that sounds judgmental again, and probably too broadly generalizing, but if it is the case, then Jesus certainly set a precedent for turning over some tables when it came to shaking the “religious” members of society out of their materialism-induced apathy.

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