Comments on: Deep (impact) thoughts http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/ A collection of my thoughts and other random stuff I found interesting. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:13:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Dave Z http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2718 Dave Z Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:29:03 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2718 didn't mean to edit at all, some businesses are not open to doing things well and just slog along, others like apple and ms do it smarter, not perfectly, at least if the business does fail it is done, the government keeps adding layers, nothing is automatic didn’t mean to edit at all,
some businesses are not open to doing things well and just slog along, others like apple and ms do it smarter, not perfectly,
at least if the business does fail it is done, the government keeps adding layers,
nothing is automatic

]]> By: JB http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2717 JB Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:06:44 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2717 Nice editing job on my quotes. I didn't say the scientists would work for free, I said they would be cheaper than privatizing it. I'm not saying that the government does a great job managing things like this either, just that it could be done more efficiently, and that the answer to the problem of government bureaucracy, is not to hand it off to another bureaucracy. This is what I hate about most arguments for privatization, they always assume that getting out from under the government red tape automatically results in a more efficient system with a better result - not true. Nice editing job on my quotes. I didn’t say the scientists would work for free, I said they would be cheaper than privatizing it.

I’m not saying that the government does a great job managing things like this either, just that it could be done more efficiently, and that the answer to the problem of government bureaucracy, is not to hand it off to another bureaucracy.

This is what I hate about most arguments for privatization, they always assume that getting out from under the government red tape automatically results in a more efficient system with a better result - not true.

]]> By: Totally anonymous http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2716 Totally anonymous Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:59:18 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2716 Don't have time (or patience, let’s be honest) to read all the comments but, wait for it... wait for it... I agree with your original post here. It's a bitter sweet situation. Don’t have time (or patience, let’s be honest) to read all the comments but, wait for it… wait for it… I agree with your original post here. It’s a bitter sweet situation.

]]> By: Dave Z http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2715 Dave Z Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:48:21 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2715 no arguments just discussion: You wrote -- "There are tons of examples of people putting in a great deal of effort to produce superior products for little or no money (take Linux for example). " no offense but I dont see how linux has helped make the world better, if it is what you have used to enable me to blog ok that is something and I'm grateful for blogging and the free help. What I see is many companies investing tons of money and taking risks and fighting the government money grabbers to help themselves yes, but to make something worthwhile also. Again no malice --- you wrote: "There are plenty of very intelligent scientists out there who would happily work on such a project," -- Why dont they? Could be it takes tons of money and risk and fighting off the government will their hand out trying to grub fees and taxes. ( happy tone, no anger here ) You wrote : "...That’s unfortunately the kind of world we live in, where there could be an invention that would produce free clean water and more food than anyone could ever eat, and they would probably try to patent it instead of making it freely available." It hasnt happened that way yet. And the scientists and the government professional job keepers all have " let's help humanity " pure goals? We pay for our food now. Do you expect farmers to work for free? We pay for water now. I pay the local government who raised my rates during the water shortage years ago and never relowered the rates after the shrotage was over. I think private enterprise could be less expensive for water. no arguments just discussion:
You wrote –
“There are tons of examples of people putting in a great deal of effort to produce superior products for little or no money (take Linux for example). ”
no offense but I dont see how linux has helped make the world better, if it is what you have used to enable me to blog ok that is something and I’m grateful for blogging and the free help.

What I see is many companies investing tons of money and taking risks and fighting the government money grabbers to help themselves yes, but to make something worthwhile also.

Again no malice — you wrote:
“There are plenty of very intelligent scientists out there who would happily work on such a project,” — Why dont they?
Could be it takes tons of money and risk and fighting off the government will their hand out trying to grub fees and taxes.

( happy tone, no anger here )
You wrote :
“…That’s unfortunately the kind of world we live in, where there could be an invention that would produce free clean water and more food than anyone could ever eat, and they would probably try to patent it instead of making it freely available.”
It hasnt happened that way yet.
And the scientists and the government professional job keepers all have ” let’s help humanity ” pure goals?

We pay for our food now. Do you expect farmers to work for free? We pay for water now. I pay the local government who raised my rates during the water shortage years ago and never relowered the rates after the shrotage was over. I think private enterprise could be less expensive for water.

]]> By: Nate http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2714 Nate Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:38:41 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2714 Ax NASA and you all will be screwed when a comet comes barreling for earth. Ax NASA and you all will be screwed when a comet comes barreling for earth.

]]> By: Dave Z http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2713 Dave Z Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:33:57 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2713 the hippie comment is just a joke the hippie comment is just a joke

]]> By: JB http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2706 JB Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:52:58 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2706 I'm not sure what being a "hippie" has to do with any of this, unless it's being used as a put down for someone who values the humanitarian goal of a project like this over the goal of making money, and if so, I don't see how that can be a negative reference. I’m not sure what being a “hippie” has to do with any of this, unless it’s being used as a put down for someone who values the humanitarian goal of a project like this over the goal of making money, and if so, I don’t see how that can be a negative reference.

]]> By: JB http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2696 JB Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:50:48 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2696 I think the point is that there is bureaucracy everywhere, whether it be the government or corporations. And the bureaucracy within most corporations (probably especially the ones mentioned above) is strictly concerned with making a profit for the stockholders - delivering a good product to the consumer is sometimes a necessary byproduct, but certainly not the focus. To say that unless there's big money in it no good work will be done on it is just false. There are tons of examples of people putting in a great deal of effort to produce superior products for little or no money (take Linux for example). There are plenty of very intelligent scientists out there who would happily work on such a project, and you could pay them very extravagantly for much less than it would cost to move it from one bureaucracy (government) to another (private enterprise). The other problem with corporations doing this kind of thing is that they'll try to cash in on it with patents, etc. That's unfortunately the kind of world we live in, where there could be an invention that would produce free clean water and more food than anyone could ever eat, and they would probably try to patent it instead of making it freely available. I wonder if there's some sort of imminent domain law that would allow patents to be canceled in cases like these. I think the point is that there is bureaucracy everywhere, whether it be the government or corporations. And the bureaucracy within most corporations (probably especially the ones mentioned above) is strictly concerned with making a profit for the stockholders - delivering a good product to the consumer is sometimes a necessary byproduct, but certainly not the focus.

To say that unless there’s big money in it no good work will be done on it is just false. There are tons of examples of people putting in a great deal of effort to produce superior products for little or no money (take Linux for example). There are plenty of very intelligent scientists out there who would happily work on such a project, and you could pay them very extravagantly for much less than it would cost to move it from one bureaucracy (government) to another (private enterprise).

The other problem with corporations doing this kind of thing is that they’ll try to cash in on it with patents, etc. That’s unfortunately the kind of world we live in, where there could be an invention that would produce free clean water and more food than anyone could ever eat, and they would probably try to patent it instead of making it freely available. I wonder if there’s some sort of imminent domain law that would allow patents to be canceled in cases like these.

]]> By: Dave Z http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2703 Dave Z Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:49:33 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2703 the billion was what she made legally, do you have a pony tail now? the billion was what she made legally, do you have a pony tail now?

]]> By: nstryker http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2698 nstryker Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:16:18 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2005/07/05/deep-impact-thoughts/#comment-2698 remind me to kick you for the hippie comment. the $50,000 was just the cheating she got caught doing. remind me to kick you for the hippie comment.

the $50,000 was just the cheating she got caught doing.

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