Comments on: Automation reducing common sense http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/ A collection of my thoughts and other random stuff I found interesting. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:19:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Martha http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4407 Martha Mon, 01 May 2006 19:13:13 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4407 Yeah, "oops honey, now the secret it out." hee hee Yeah, “oops honey, now the secret it out.” hee hee

]]> By: nstryker http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4406 nstryker Mon, 01 May 2006 16:57:06 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4406 with all the stuff on this blog, you're afraid that thinking about traffic lights makes you sound like a nerd? with all the stuff on this blog, you’re afraid that thinking about traffic lights makes you sound like a nerd?

]]> By: JB http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4405 JB Sun, 30 Apr 2006 21:10:48 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4405 Yeah, that makes sense. I'm actually kind of glad they didn't do the blinking red thing, though, since that really slows everything down since every car has to stop, and I think it's an all-or-nothing thing (all four directions). It would be nice, though, if they could easily program exceptions for situations like this. In this case, it would be good if they could switch to the left + straight pattern (for one side at a time, alternating to one side then the other like the intersection down the street), rather than the left + left (both sides) then straight + straight, since that one was never getting triggered in this case. Now that I've typed that, I'm debating whether I should go back and delete it, because talking about / thinking about various traffic light patterns make me sound like a real nerd. Oh, well. Yeah, that makes sense. I’m actually kind of glad they didn’t do the blinking red thing, though, since that really slows everything down since every car has to stop, and I think it’s an all-or-nothing thing (all four directions).

It would be nice, though, if they could easily program exceptions for situations like this. In this case, it would be good if they could switch to the left + straight pattern (for one side at a time, alternating to one side then the other like the intersection down the street), rather than the left + left (both sides) then straight + straight, since that one was never getting triggered in this case.

Now that I’ve typed that, I’m debating whether I should go back and delete it, because talking about / thinking about various traffic light patterns make me sound like a real nerd. Oh, well.

]]> By: nstryker http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4404 nstryker Sun, 30 Apr 2006 16:35:46 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4404 plus, there's a typical solution to these sorts of situations: the blinky red light. when ol' blinky red doesn't appear, we assume we'll get to go in turn. you're just smarter than the rest of us. plus, there’s a typical solution to these sorts of situations: the blinky red light. when ol’ blinky red doesn’t appear, we assume we’ll get to go in turn. you’re just smarter than the rest of us.

]]> By: Martha http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4403 Martha Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:13:58 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4403 No, because I was not sure who else would be going on the left arrow until the cycle went through once and I realized I wasn't going to get my own light, nor would I be killed going on the left one. No, because I was not sure who else would be going on the left arrow until the cycle went through once and I realized I wasn’t going to get my own light, nor would I be killed going on the left one.

]]> By: Dan http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4402 Dan Sun, 30 Apr 2006 07:14:46 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4402 not at all. not at all.

]]> By: JB http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4401 JB Sun, 30 Apr 2006 06:52:49 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4401 No, like I said above, there is no danger in going straight on a left turn light. The only possible problem would be if someone directly opposite of you were turning left on their left turn arrow, which you can easily see. The people in the cross traffic would by definition have a red light if you have a left turn arrow, so it's no problem. I'm not going to go test it or anything, but I'm also pretty sure that a traffic camera would not be triggered by someone going through the left turn lane on a green arrow and then shifting to going straight once they enter the intersection. The logic involved in these things is pretty simple, and will not snap a photo of a car which has entered the intersection in a valid manner, even if they do something invalid after that point. I did realize, however, after talking to Martha about it (and from the comments here) that the whole situation probably isn't that obvious as I was making it out to be. No, like I said above, there is no danger in going straight on a left turn light. The only possible problem would be if someone directly opposite of you were turning left on their left turn arrow, which you can easily see.

The people in the cross traffic would by definition have a red light if you have a left turn arrow, so it’s no problem.

I’m not going to go test it or anything, but I’m also pretty sure that a traffic camera would not be triggered by someone going through the left turn lane on a green arrow and then shifting to going straight once they enter the intersection. The logic involved in these things is pretty simple, and will not snap a photo of a car which has entered the intersection in a valid manner, even if they do something invalid after that point.

I did realize, however, after talking to Martha about it (and from the comments here) that the whole situation probably isn’t that obvious as I was making it out to be.

]]> By: Dan http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4400 Dan Sun, 30 Apr 2006 05:23:18 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4400 So you suggest they run the red light with how fast people go on foothill, I don't get it. Maybe a rant about the construction crew should be in order instead. So you suggest they run the red light with how fast people go on foothill, I don’t get it.

Maybe a rant about the construction crew should be in order instead.

]]> By: lnstryker http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4399 lnstryker Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:57:24 +0000 http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/04/29/automation-reducing-common-sense/#comment-4399 the camera would keep me from going through. the camera would keep me from going through.

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