[...] It really irks me when people steal a post from someone, especially within a knit group of bloggers. It’s one thing to fork the conversation off another post or to take information from another major site to start a more personal blog conversation but to just set-up a few links and not redirect conversation just seems wrong to me. Jared, sorry to call you out on this but I’ve seen it everywhere and you’re the most recent attack thief contributor. [...]
Seems a little too reactionary to me. Maybe the pendulum swung a bit too far. I’d like to see the kids test scores before and after they went to that school, except they probably don’t believe in standardized tests. Anyway, those kids definitely didn’t seem like average kids.
Well, I’m probably going to order the full video, so if you’re interested you can borrow it after I watch it.
It’s definitely not something for everyone, but a lot of the ideas (along with several of the comments from the kids) I found to be very interesting.
I also liked the quote from the original post Jason linked to:
Attending schools like this teaches many kids to run their own lives, blazing their own trail, inventing their own careers, and trying anything. Useful skills in a world where any job that can be described is likely to be outsourced.
camarillo has regular elementary schools, plus an open school and a closed school. this kind of thing is great for kids like me, but there are other kids that thrive under ridged rules and standards.
to show the open school as the “one true way” for all kids is just being a new kind of closed, and is condemning the anal kids as being wrong. then again, maybe it’s okay to call them wrong, since they’ll grow up to be republicans.
I would never presume to say that one is best for everyone. That would be like saying homeschooling is the best way. It just isn’t true. I would love to go there and see it in action. anyone want to got o Maryland?
I wish it was here because I’d be enrolling Sam immediately. This kind of thing is tailor made for someone like him. I’m so disinchanted with public school. My favorite aspect was the thesis for adulthood and the related process for graduation. Love it!
So I was talking to a coworker and she was telling me how great her son’s school has been for him and how she liked how he at age six he was learning to teach the younger kids how to do things like tie their shoes and button their shirts and so on … and to make a long story short he goes to a Montessori method school which according to Kristen everyone knows about except me but isn’t the same schooling method as in this documentary although it sounds like this school has incorporated some of the principles. This school implements a far hippiermore modern more progressive method called the Sudbury model. Such diversity yet so little selection for parents. *cough*Vouchers*cough*. Excuse me.
Oh, I tried to strike out those inappropriate labels. I guess I should have used the strike tag and not del. I’m sorry if anyone is offended. Well, not really, but I do feel sorry for you for being offended.
That school is only through 5th grade, Nathan. Are there any nearby that go all the way through? And is an “open school” really the same? I mean this is a private school. I see a lot of differences. And, while we’re on the topic, I’m all for vouchers.
According to the link I so graciously provided in a previous comment on this post (not in a new post on my own blog, Dan) the closest Sudbury model schools look like they’re in northern California
In my days as a traveling computer teacher, I had a Montessori school as a client that I would do classes for once a week. I didn’t pick up much on their teaching methods, though, and it was too long ago to remember even if I had.
My name is Danny Mydlack and I am the filmmaker. Thanks so much for discussing the trailer and the school and the ideas they kick up.
As I have begun touring with the film I’ve noticed how much I feel compelled to say before and after the screenings. I find myself adding more about how I came to make the film, my almost-30 years interest/involvement with learning/teaching, my current position as a university professor and my role as a parent of two toddlers.
I encounter a fair amount of incredulity. I think that’s okay. If I hadn’t seen these things myself, I would also be very skeptical.
Education has been (almost pathologically) teaching-centered since the 1850s in America. And probably for real and compelling reasons.
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Seems a little too reactionary to me. Maybe the pendulum swung a bit too far. I’d like to see the kids test scores before and after they went to that school, except they probably don’t believe in standardized tests. Anyway, those kids definitely didn’t seem like average kids.
Well, I’m probably going to order the full video, so if you’re interested you can borrow it after I watch it.
It’s definitely not something for everyone, but a lot of the ideas (along with several of the comments from the kids) I found to be very interesting.
I also liked the quote from the original post Jason linked to:
I loved what one of the kids said, “Learning doesn’t come from the mouth of the teacher, but from the heart of the listener.”
camarillo has regular elementary schools, plus an open school and a closed school. this kind of thing is great for kids like me, but there are other kids that thrive under ridged rules and standards.
to show the open school as the “one true way” for all kids is just being a new kind of closed, and is condemning the anal kids as being wrong. then again, maybe it’s okay to call them wrong, since they’ll grow up to be republicans.
I would never presume to say that one is best for everyone. That would be like saying homeschooling is the best way. It just isn’t true. I would love to go there and see it in action. anyone want to got o Maryland?
camarillo’s a little closer: http://www.greatschools.net/modperl/browse_school/ca/7676
I wish it was here because I’d be enrolling Sam immediately. This kind of thing is tailor made for someone like him. I’m so disinchanted with public school. My favorite aspect was the thesis for adulthood and the related process for graduation. Love it!
So I was talking to a coworker and she was telling me how great her son’s school has been for him and how she liked how he at age six he was learning to teach the younger kids how to do things like tie their shoes and button their shirts and so on … and to make a long story short he goes to a Montessori method school which according to Kristen everyone knows about except me but isn’t the same schooling method as in this documentary although it sounds like this school has incorporated some of the principles. This school implements a far
hippiermore modernmore progressive method called the Sudbury model. Such diversity yet so little selection for parents. *cough*Vouchers*cough*. Excuse me.Oh, I tried to strike out those inappropriate labels. I guess I should have used the strike tag and not del. I’m sorry if anyone is offended. Well, not really, but I do feel sorry for you for being offended.
What labels?
Nevermind then.
I’m guessing that’s what you meant (above)?
But who needs vouchers when you can just raise taxes to pay for it?
Ha Ha!
Oh please. Dan, get a life.
That school is only through 5th grade, Nathan. Are there any nearby that go all the way through? And is an “open school” really the same? I mean this is a private school. I see a lot of differences. And, while we’re on the topic, I’m all for vouchers.
Martha, unless you forgot to include a happy face and/or are joking that was rude.
psshhh
According to the link I so graciously provided in a previous comment on this post (not in a new post on my own blog, Dan) the closest Sudbury model schools look like they’re in northern California
you only need to have the school up to 5th grade, by then they’re ready for college.
Montessori is different, also, in my opinion. But, I would need more proof.
In my days as a traveling computer teacher, I had a Montessori school as a client that I would do classes for once a week. I didn’t pick up much on their teaching methods, though, and it was too long ago to remember even if I had.
Of course they’re different. Martha, are you filtering out my comments?
Why? What do you mean?
Hi,
My name is Danny Mydlack and I am the filmmaker. Thanks so much for discussing the trailer and the school and the ideas they kick up.
As I have begun touring with the film I’ve noticed how much I feel compelled to say before and after the screenings. I find myself adding more about how I came to make the film, my almost-30 years interest/involvement with learning/teaching, my current position as a university professor and my role as a parent of two toddlers.
I encounter a fair amount of incredulity. I think that’s okay. If I hadn’t seen these things myself, I would also be very skeptical.
Education has been (almost pathologically) teaching-centered since the 1850s in America. And probably for real and compelling reasons.
Danny