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	<title>Comments on: Open support</title>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/07/24/open-support/#comment-5151</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know, and (like I said above) I don't have a problem with using IRC for support per-se. It's been around for a long time, and hopefully will continue well into the future. I just also think that in this case (considering their target audience) they made a fine choice to use a Jabber based communication approach for this particular service.

I think there can be value in both avenues of support, and I think this only ads to the picture. It's great that there are people who hang out in IRC and newsgroups, etc. who are also willing to provide support, but it is different (not that we have to say it's "better" or "worse") to have people specifically logged in and ready to take personal incoming chat requests about their specific areas of expertise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, and (like I said above) I don&#8217;t have a problem with using IRC for support per-se. It&#8217;s been around for a long time, and hopefully will continue well into the future. I just also think that in this case (considering their target audience) they made a fine choice to use a Jabber based communication approach for this particular service.</p>
<p>I think there can be value in both avenues of support, and I think this only ads to the picture. It&#8217;s great that there are people who hang out in IRC and newsgroups, etc. who are also willing to provide support, but it is different (not that we have to say it&#8217;s &#8220;better&#8221; or &#8220;worse&#8221;) to have people specifically logged in and ready to take personal incoming chat requests about their specific areas of expertise.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/07/24/open-support/#comment-5150</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 03:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But there is already a bunch of people on IRC that are more than willing to help out. I guess finding the appropriate channel is the hard part, a majority of Gnome projects have directions on thier website about how to get help on IRC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But there is already a bunch of people on IRC that are more than willing to help out. I guess finding the appropriate channel is the hard part, a majority of Gnome projects have directions on thier website about how to get help on IRC.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/07/24/open-support/#comment-5149</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the novelty / value doesn't necessarily lie in the means of communication (IRC, IM, etc.), other than the fact that it's immediate and personal. The novelty / value from what QUNU is doing comes from people dedicating their time to provide support for free.


As for the technical means of communication they chose to use, I think IM was probably more suited to their target audience, as opposed to more passive support request/response systems or informal group conversation.

I think the idea is to make it a lot easier for the average user to get help with X product, because when they describe their problem, they're immediately connected to someone who is registered to provide support for that particular product, without having to know where to find that person, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the novelty / value doesn&#8217;t necessarily lie in the means of communication (IRC, IM, etc.), other than the fact that it&#8217;s immediate and personal. The novelty / value from what QUNU is doing comes from people dedicating their time to provide support for free.</p>
<p>As for the technical means of communication they chose to use, I think IM was probably more suited to their target audience, as opposed to more passive support request/response systems or informal group conversation.</p>
<p>I think the idea is to make it a lot easier for the average user to get help with X product, because when they describe their problem, they&#8217;re immediately connected to someone who is registered to provide support for that particular product, without having to know where to find that person, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/07/24/open-support/#comment-5152</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hang out in several software related IRC channels. And when I'm not paying attention to what's going on I like to go back and read the conversations I missed. It's very informative to listen to other people's conversations even if I don't have an immediate need for the info.

I guess this service would be easier to use since many people already have their IM accounts but other than that I don't understand it's novelty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hang out in several software related IRC channels. And when I&#8217;m not paying attention to what&#8217;s going on I like to go back and read the conversations I missed. It&#8217;s very informative to listen to other people&#8217;s conversations even if I don&#8217;t have an immediate need for the info.</p>
<p>I guess this service would be easier to use since many people already have their IM accounts but other than that I don&#8217;t understand it&#8217;s novelty.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/07/24/open-support/#comment-5154</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 00:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would I link to the trailers? The only link I made (other than to your story) was to a news article from almost a year ago, which was way before the trailers were released.

Anyway, the point was I'm not trying to be Digg or Slashdot. I'll post on things that are 300 years old if I find them interesting.

Most of my posts aren't meant to be news posts, they're just me offering my opinions on various things, regardless of when they happened.

I didn't see anyone else making the connections or points that I did here. I'm sure someone, somewhere has, but even if they did, so what? I'm not going to research every time I mention something technical on here just to be sure that no one else has already mentioned it somewhere before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would I link to the trailers? The only link I made (other than to your story) was to a news article from almost a year ago, which was way before the trailers were released.</p>
<p>Anyway, the point was I&#8217;m not trying to be Digg or Slashdot. I&#8217;ll post on things that are 300 years old if I find them interesting.</p>
<p>Most of my posts aren&#8217;t meant to be news posts, they&#8217;re just me offering my opinions on various things, regardless of when they happened.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t see anyone else making the connections or points that I did here. I&#8217;m sure someone, somewhere has, but even if they did, so what? I&#8217;m not going to research every time I mention something technical on here just to be sure that no one else has already mentioned it somewhere before.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/07/24/open-support/#comment-5153</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant to post on it before but never got around to it but it's not tech news were it gets old fast. :)

I love how you didn't link to the apple trailers, where it was posted first and the 3rd hit on google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to post on it before but never got around to it but it&#8217;s not tech news were it gets old fast. <img src='http://freepressblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I love how you didn&#8217;t link to the apple trailers, where it was posted first and the 3rd hit on google.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/07/24/open-support/#comment-5156</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 17:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you use IRC a lot for support?

They don't get that on IRC either, unless they just happen to be on when someone else is asking the question they need answered, which is pretty unlikely. And if you've got a large channel with multiple questions being asked and answered simultaneously it can be hard to read, unless the question is answered over private messages, in which case everyone else does not see it.

For the group support dynamic, I'd say searching (web &#038; newsgroups) and / or forum based approaches are generally better, especially for common problems, although not as speedy.

If you need immediate answers, you could go for IRC, but I'm guessing they did it this way because it's easier to use for the end user who needs help.

I don't have anything against IRC, but I do think there are benefits for QUNU to do it this way instead. They could always also make their chat archives searchable to provide the shared support; they may already do this, actually - I didn't really look at it too closely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you use IRC a lot for support?</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t get that on IRC either, unless they just happen to be on when someone else is asking the question they need answered, which is pretty unlikely. And if you&#8217;ve got a large channel with multiple questions being asked and answered simultaneously it can be hard to read, unless the question is answered over private messages, in which case everyone else does not see it.</p>
<p>For the group support dynamic, I&#8217;d say searching (web &#038; newsgroups) and / or forum based approaches are generally better, especially for common problems, although not as speedy.</p>
<p>If you need immediate answers, you could go for IRC, but I&#8217;m guessing they did it this way because it&#8217;s easier to use for the end user who needs help.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have anything against IRC, but I do think there are benefits for QUNU to do it this way instead. They could always also make their chat archives searchable to provide the shared support; they may already do this, actually - I didn&#8217;t really look at it too closely.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/07/24/open-support/#comment-5155</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's like IRC except all the other people interested in the subject don't get to benefit from hearing your question being answered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s like IRC except all the other people interested in the subject don&#8217;t get to benefit from hearing your question being answered.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/07/24/open-support/#comment-5157</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 06:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and Dan, how long ago was that &lt;a href="http://idancameron.com/asides/1347" rel="nofollow"&gt;Spider-man trailer released&lt;/a&gt;, and how &lt;a href="http://www.killermovies.com/s/spiderman3/articles/5481.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;long before that&lt;/a&gt; were the villains announced?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Dan, how long ago was that <a href="http://idancameron.com/asides/1347" rel="nofollow">Spider-man trailer released</a>, and how <a href="http://www.killermovies.com/s/spiderman3/articles/5481.html" rel="nofollow">long before that</a> were the villains announced?</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/07/24/open-support/#comment-5160</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 01:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, you've obviously been reading lame sites like Digg and Slashdot too much.

I don't have a problem with IRC, but I think in this case direct IM is actually more appropriate. The experts would only sign on when they're available anyway, so I don't think it's really any more intrusive than anything else.

Of course, I rarely ever have IM on, definitely not when I'm working, and I imagine that anyone who offers their assistance using this model would only do so during times when they don't mind being "interrupted".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, you&#8217;ve obviously been reading lame sites like Digg and Slashdot too much.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with IRC, but I think in this case direct IM is actually more appropriate. The experts would only sign on when they&#8217;re available anyway, so I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s really any more intrusive than anything else.</p>
<p>Of course, I rarely ever have IM on, definitely not when I&#8217;m working, and I imagine that anyone who offers their assistance using this model would only do so during times when they don&#8217;t mind being &#8220;interrupted&#8221;.</p>
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