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		<title>By: Kristi</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/08/24/a-bit-of-a-safer-controversy/#comment-5248</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry randy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry randy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/08/24/a-bit-of-a-safer-controversy/#comment-5247</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ventura water tastes like morning breath smells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ventura water tastes like morning breath smells.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Z</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/08/24/a-bit-of-a-safer-controversy/#comment-5245</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristi, you are right, link shows benefit into adulthood.
http://www.fluoridedebate.com/question08.html

Hardly ever drink Ventura water straight out of tap. RO filtered most of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristi, you are right, link shows benefit into adulthood.<br />
<a href="http://www.fluoridedebate.com/question08.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fluoridedebate.com/question08.html</a></p>
<p>Hardly ever drink Ventura water straight out of tap. RO filtered most of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/08/24/a-bit-of-a-safer-controversy/#comment-5237</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I remember correctly, I don't think that the article was suggesting that caffeine isn't a diuretic, just that it still gives you a net gain in fluids.

Dan: that was a pretty funky comment - were you sober when you wrote that? :)

But seriously, I'm not sure you can say that "water will always be healthier than any other fluid". Tea (along with most other drinks) is primarily water, and as long as what is added to the water brings additional health benefits while not losing any or adding anything negative, I think one could make a pretty good case for it being "healthier", in that sense. I guess it is a semantic issue, to some degree.

If you *only* drank tea *instead of* water, of course that would probably be bad because then you could be overdoing it with the extra things that aren't bad for you in moderation. I guess that is where the argument for water is probably the strongest, in that you don't really have to be worried much about moderation when it comes to water, short of drowning.

But basically I think they just chose to give the article that slightly controversial title to draw in more readers, and I'm sure it probably worked for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I remember correctly, I don&#8217;t think that the article was suggesting that caffeine isn&#8217;t a diuretic, just that it still gives you a net gain in fluids.</p>
<p>Dan: that was a pretty funky comment - were you sober when you wrote that? <img src='http://freepressblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
But seriously, I&#8217;m not sure you can say that &#8220;water will always be healthier than any other fluid&#8221;. Tea (along with most other drinks) is primarily water, and as long as what is added to the water brings additional health benefits while not losing any or adding anything negative, I think one could make a pretty good case for it being &#8220;healthier&#8221;, in that sense. I guess it is a semantic issue, to some degree.</p>
<p>If you *only* drank tea *instead of* water, of course that would probably be bad because then you could be overdoing it with the extra things that aren&#8217;t bad for you in moderation. I guess that is where the argument for water is probably the strongest, in that you don&#8217;t really have to be worried much about moderation when it comes to water, short of drowning.</p>
<p>But basically I think they just chose to give the article that slightly controversial title to draw in more readers, and I&#8217;m sure it probably worked for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/08/24/a-bit-of-a-safer-controversy/#comment-5238</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not true about the flouride, Dave. Keep drinkin that good ol' mineral laden Ventura tap water!  MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM  good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not true about the flouride, Dave. Keep drinkin that good ol&#8217; mineral laden Ventura tap water!  MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM  good!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Z</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/08/24/a-bit-of-a-safer-controversy/#comment-5239</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After drinking green tea for a week, my skin improves.

I read that flouride's main benefit for teeth ends in childhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After drinking green tea for a week, my skin improves.</p>
<p>I read that flouride&#8217;s main benefit for teeth ends in childhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/08/24/a-bit-of-a-safer-controversy/#comment-5240</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 05:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Water will always be healthier then any other fluid.

Let alone the limitation of teas on some people. It may help in instances but water is pure and will always be the health of everyone. I think water never gets enough credit and because we love pimping out everything we consume we've turned dried tea leaves into our spinning rims and sugar into money.

Maybe health is just relative though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Water will always be healthier then any other fluid.</p>
<p>Let alone the limitation of teas on some people. It may help in instances but water is pure and will always be the health of everyone. I think water never gets enough credit and because we love pimping out everything we consume we&#8217;ve turned dried tea leaves into our spinning rims and sugar into money.</p>
<p>Maybe health is just relative though.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starbucks does have regular Tazo tea like Green, Earl Grey, and English Breakfast.

I always wondered what the consensus was on tea, because in the hospital setting, when we are doing our inputs and outputs of what the patient drank and peed during our shift, it never matters whether or not the patient had coffee or water. It all counted as the same type of input. I'm with martha though- it is a diuretic.Proven to be. The tea council (who sponsored the story) should atleast know that.

I guess it all comes back to moderation. One cup or two won't diurese or dehydrate anyone. It will give fluids though. Just like one or two cups of tea won't hurt anyone's heart (but may be beneficial) but if you start drinking cup after cup after cup, the heart rate does increase and that could develop into a problem later on after years of use like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starbucks does have regular Tazo tea like Green, Earl Grey, and English Breakfast.</p>
<p>I always wondered what the consensus was on tea, because in the hospital setting, when we are doing our inputs and outputs of what the patient drank and peed during our shift, it never matters whether or not the patient had coffee or water. It all counted as the same type of input. I&#8217;m with martha though- it is a diuretic.Proven to be. The tea council (who sponsored the story) should atleast know that.</p>
<p>I guess it all comes back to moderation. One cup or two won&#8217;t diurese or dehydrate anyone. It will give fluids though. Just like one or two cups of tea won&#8217;t hurt anyone&#8217;s heart (but may be beneficial) but if you start drinking cup after cup after cup, the heart rate does increase and that could develop into a problem later on after years of use like that.</p>
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		<title>By: JaredB</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2006/08/24/a-bit-of-a-safer-controversy/#comment-5242</link>
		<dc:creator>JaredB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 08:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure whether they're counting that when they say that you still end up gaining fluid, but even if they're not, you could take the approach of those weird "cleansing" health type people and say that that's probably good for you too.

I wonder whether Starbucks serves regular tea... maybe I'll check next time I'm there. I know they have those green tea frap things, which taste good but are definitely not good for you.

Anyway, I do like those Diet Green Tea Sobe drinks, so it's good to know that those probably aren't bad for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure whether they&#8217;re counting that when they say that you still end up gaining fluid, but even if they&#8217;re not, you could take the approach of those weird &#8220;cleansing&#8221; health type people and say that that&#8217;s probably good for you too.</p>
<p>I wonder whether Starbucks serves regular tea&#8230; maybe I&#8217;ll check next time I&#8217;m there. I know they have those green tea frap things, which taste good but are definitely not good for you.</p>
<p>Anyway, I do like those Diet Green Tea Sobe drinks, so it&#8217;s good to know that those probably aren&#8217;t bad for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw that, but it is a diuretic. Maybe not as potent as once thought?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that, but it is a diuretic. Maybe not as potent as once thought?</p>
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