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	<title>Comments on: Armchair refereeing</title>
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		<title>By: martha</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2007/09/08/armchair-refereeing/#comment-10649</link>
		<dc:creator>martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that cheer would be ok, except for the "don't let those guys get you down". That might be misconstrued as negative and demeaning to the other boys and damage their self esteem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that cheer would be ok, except for the &#8220;don&#8217;t let those guys get you down&#8221;. That might be misconstrued as negative and demeaning to the other boys and damage their self esteem.</p>
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		<title>By: mama jacquie</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2007/09/08/armchair-refereeing/#comment-10623</link>
		<dc:creator>mama jacquie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 03:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go Jared!  It's OK!  Shake it off!  Your doing great!  Don't let those guys get you down!  You can do it!  Don't give up!  Hang in there!  You're a winner! We're proud of you!  How's that for some cheerful cheering?  
You think soccer parents are bad, try little league! And the games drag on for hours!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Jared!  It&#8217;s OK!  Shake it off!  Your doing great!  Don&#8217;t let those guys get you down!  You can do it!  Don&#8217;t give up!  Hang in there!  You&#8217;re a winner! We&#8217;re proud of you!  How&#8217;s that for some cheerful cheering?<br />
You think soccer parents are bad, try little league! And the games drag on for hours!</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2007/09/08/armchair-refereeing/#comment-10331</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 04:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you're right. I understand that people can't help getting worked up. 

It just sucks for the volunteers, because it makes them (or I should say me) much less inclined to volunteer in the future.

It's especially irritating since I know that I definitely could be wrong and that most of them probably &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; know way more about soccer than I do, but the only reason I'm doing it at all is because none of them got off their buts when the time came.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you&#8217;re right. I understand that people can&#8217;t help getting worked up. </p>
<p>It just sucks for the volunteers, because it makes them (or I should say me) much less inclined to volunteer in the future.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s especially irritating since I know that I definitely could be wrong and that most of them probably <em>do</em> know way more about soccer than I do, but the only reason I&#8217;m doing it at all is because none of them got off their buts when the time came.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2007/09/08/armchair-refereeing/#comment-10327</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 03:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should have middle fingered them, then they could have figured out what you wanted to say by that simple and short expression.

It's close to impossible for most people not to yell when they "know" something is wrong, whether you were right or wrong,  inappropriate or criticisms will always come with being a ref. in any sport. Players, fans and spectators or parents of kids just need to realize refs. will never be perfect especially volunteers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should have middle fingered them, then they could have figured out what you wanted to say by that simple and short expression.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s close to impossible for most people not to yell when they &#8220;know&#8221; something is wrong, whether you were right or wrong,  inappropriate or criticisms will always come with being a ref. in any sport. Players, fans and spectators or parents of kids just need to realize refs. will never be perfect especially volunteers.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2007/09/08/armchair-refereeing/#comment-10267</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I'd agree that &lt;em&gt;cheerful&lt;/em&gt; yelling and screaming could be appropriate, but unfortunately that isn't always what goes on at kids' soccer games.

I'm also not necessarily opposed to people really getting into their particular favorite sport to the point where they (in the moment they're watching) seem to take it a bit too seriously and (as you said) "loudly and obnoxiously chide" the ref for what they perceive to be a bad call. I personally would still find it a bit silly, but it's understandable.

However, I feel that kind of non-lighthearted emotional involvement in the game on the part of the parents is completely inappropriate for a &lt;em&gt;kids&lt;/em&gt; soccer game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;d agree that <em>cheerful</em> yelling and screaming could be appropriate, but unfortunately that isn&#8217;t always what goes on at kids&#8217; soccer games.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also not necessarily opposed to people really getting into their particular favorite sport to the point where they (in the moment they&#8217;re watching) seem to take it a bit too seriously and (as you said) &#8220;loudly and obnoxiously chide&#8221; the ref for what they perceive to be a bad call. I personally would still find it a bit silly, but it&#8217;s understandable.</p>
<p>However, I feel that kind of non-lighthearted emotional involvement in the game on the part of the parents is completely inappropriate for a <em>kids</em> soccer game.</p>
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		<title>By: nstryker</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2007/09/08/armchair-refereeing/#comment-10265</link>
		<dc:creator>nstryker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree except for #2.  screaming and making a fool of yourself is part of the joy of sports spectator-ship, so long as overall you adhere to rule #1.  as a matter of fact, if they'd loudly and obnoxiously chided you for missing the "offsides," i'd find that completely appropriate, whereas the whispering behind your back is just silly for all the reasons you mentioned above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree except for #2.  screaming and making a fool of yourself is part of the joy of sports spectator-ship, so long as overall you adhere to rule #1.  as a matter of fact, if they&#8217;d loudly and obnoxiously chided you for missing the &#8220;offsides,&#8221; i&#8217;d find that completely appropriate, whereas the whispering behind your back is just silly for all the reasons you mentioned above.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2007/09/08/armchair-refereeing/#comment-10260</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 23:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that's what I thought. It still might have happened and I just didn't see it, but oh well, that's the way it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s what I thought. It still might have happened and I just didn&#8217;t see it, but oh well, that&#8217;s the way it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2007/09/08/armchair-refereeing/#comment-10253</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're right. It's not "offsides" unless you're between the defenders and the goal and actually receive a pass. If you get it past everyone on your own, it's not offsides. You did great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right. It&#8217;s not &#8220;offsides&#8221; unless you&#8217;re between the defenders and the goal and actually receive a pass. If you get it past everyone on your own, it&#8217;s not offsides. You did great!</p>
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