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	<title>Comments on: Note to grocery stores</title>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2007/10/12/note-to-grocery-stores/#comment-12314</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 05:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I'm pretty sure the news would spread pretty fast among large grocery chains like Albertson's; I suspect they (somewhere in their corporate organization) watch these kinds of things closely. 

If you read further into that link you'll find that this recent decision was based on precedents set by earlier cases. Oddly enough, the two other cases referenced were involving the stores we're talking about: Trader Joe's in 1999 and Albertson's in 2003. 

But there's no point in arguing about that. 

Even if it wasn't legal for the stores to remove them, if I were a manager of a larger store like Albertson's, I'd hire a minimum wage guy to stand out in front of the store and disrupt their activities all day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m pretty sure the news would spread pretty fast among large grocery chains like Albertson&#8217;s; I suspect they (somewhere in their corporate organization) watch these kinds of things closely. </p>
<p>If you read further into that link you&#8217;ll find that this recent decision was based on precedents set by earlier cases. Oddly enough, the two other cases referenced were involving the stores we&#8217;re talking about: Trader Joe&#8217;s in 1999 and Albertson&#8217;s in 2003. </p>
<p>But there&#8217;s no point in arguing about that. </p>
<p>Even if it wasn&#8217;t legal for the stores to remove them, if I were a manager of a larger store like Albertson&#8217;s, I&#8217;d hire a minimum wage guy to stand out in front of the store and disrupt their activities all day.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Cameron</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2007/10/12/note-to-grocery-stores/#comment-12312</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 05:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt store managers know of this ruling, since it's only been a month. You should include it in your letters.

Trader Joe's has placed signs directly in front of solicitors for a long time and it has never helped the situation, it's just more noise for the customer to ignore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt store managers know of this ruling, since it&#8217;s only been a month. You should include it in your letters.</p>
<p>Trader Joe&#8217;s has placed signs directly in front of solicitors for a long time and it has never helped the situation, it&#8217;s just more noise for the customer to ignore.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2007/10/12/note-to-grocery-stores/#comment-12282</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, &lt;a href="http://www.metnews.com/articles/2007/vanx101007.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;yes they can&lt;/a&gt;.

But even if they don't want to take legal action, they can always put up signs discouraging the practice as well as discouraging customers to support it. &lt;a href="http://sites.target.com/site/en/corporate/page.jsp?contentId=PRD03-001336" rel="nofollow"&gt;Target has done this for a long time&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, <a href="http://www.metnews.com/articles/2007/vanx101007.htm" rel="nofollow">yes they can</a>.</p>
<p>But even if they don&#8217;t want to take legal action, they can always put up signs discouraging the practice as well as discouraging customers to support it. <a href="http://sites.target.com/site/en/corporate/page.jsp?contentId=PRD03-001336" rel="nofollow">Target has done this for a long time</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Cameron</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2007/10/12/note-to-grocery-stores/#comment-12280</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you didn't follow up with this "angle" but grocery stores cannot help solicitors from camping outside the store. I'm not sure how solicitors are legally able to stand on private property  but I know for a fact the store can't legally remove these people outside their stores just for soliciting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you didn&#8217;t follow up with this &#8220;angle&#8221; but grocery stores cannot help solicitors from camping outside the store. I&#8217;m not sure how solicitors are legally able to stand on private property  but I know for a fact the store can&#8217;t legally remove these people outside their stores just for soliciting.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2007/10/12/note-to-grocery-stores/#comment-12236</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 07:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think my point about the grocery store angle got a bit lost in my sidetracked rant about the details of the people selling stuff in front of the stores, but my original point there was that I'd like the stores, as a courtesy to their customers, to chase these people off. 

I've seen other stores that have signs with that goal stated, and I appreciate it when I do.

On the Girl Scout cookie point, I think they're decent tasting too, but I won't support them for the reasons listed above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think my point about the grocery store angle got a bit lost in my sidetracked rant about the details of the people selling stuff in front of the stores, but my original point there was that I&#8217;d like the stores, as a courtesy to their customers, to chase these people off. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen other stores that have signs with that goal stated, and I appreciate it when I do.</p>
<p>On the Girl Scout cookie point, I think they&#8217;re decent tasting too, but I won&#8217;t support them for the reasons listed above.</p>
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		<title>By: nstryker</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2007/10/12/note-to-grocery-stores/#comment-12234</link>
		<dc:creator>nstryker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 06:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, i don't think the grocery stores should be blamed for not being pricks to the poor glossy eyed kids trying to hawk candy bars.  not that every other point above isn't valid, i'm just sayin', i like girl scout cookies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, i don&#8217;t think the grocery stores should be blamed for not being pricks to the poor glossy eyed kids trying to hawk candy bars.  not that every other point above isn&#8217;t valid, i&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;, i like girl scout cookies.</p>
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		<title>By: allison</title>
		<link>http://freepressblog.org/blog/2007/10/12/note-to-grocery-stores/#comment-12166</link>
		<dc:creator>allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 06:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget the grocery stores what about the schools!

the boy got his first school fund raiser. Selling holiday candy from the big chocolate people...and you know who is expected to buy it...his loving-committed family that is already paying $$$'s a month to have him school?

It seriously took everything in me to not rip the form up and place it on the directors desk.  I pay a tutition to fund this joint!  And it already went up 10% from last year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget the grocery stores what about the schools!</p>
<p>the boy got his first school fund raiser. Selling holiday candy from the big chocolate people&#8230;and you know who is expected to buy it&#8230;his loving-committed family that is already paying $$$&#8217;s a month to have him school?</p>
<p>It seriously took everything in me to not rip the form up and place it on the directors desk.  I pay a tutition to fund this joint!  And it already went up 10% from last year!</p>
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